Conservative government in Poland sending even more tanks to Ukraine

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Conservative government in Poland sending even more tanks to Ukraine

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Poland to send 60 modernised PT-91 tanks to Ukraine, in addition to Leopards

Poland will send an additional 60 tanks to Ukraine on top of the 14 German-made Leopard 2 tanks it has already pledged, the Polish prime minister has said in an interview.

Warsaw, which has positioned itself as one of Kyiv's staunchest allies, had pressed hard for Germany to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine and to allow other countries to do so as well, a demand which Berlin agreed to on Wednesday.

"Poland sent 250 tanks as the first country half a year ago or even more than that," Mateusz Morawiecki told Canada's CTV News.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-28/ ... /101902426
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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 4:26 pm Poland to send 60 modernised PT-91 tanks to Ukraine, in addition to Leopards

Poland will send an additional 60 tanks to Ukraine on top of the 14 German-made Leopard 2 tanks it has already pledged, the Polish prime minister has said in an interview.

Warsaw, which has positioned itself as one of Kyiv's staunchest allies, had pressed hard for Germany to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine and to allow other countries to do so as well, a demand which Berlin agreed to on Wednesday.

"Poland sent 250 tanks as the first country half a year ago or even more than that," Mateusz Morawiecki told Canada's CTV News.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-28/ ... /101902426
Conservative because the country is 98% practicing Roman Catholics.
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Vercingetorix wrote: January 28th, 2023, 4:28 pm Conservative because the country is 98% practicing Roman Catholics.
Poland is now down to about 87% Roman Catholic, times are changing.
There are also countries that are overwhelmingly Roman Catholic that have socialist governments. For example the country with the most Roman Catholic citizens is Brazil. They just elected for the second time a Marxist president, Lula daSilva.
Roman Catholics fall everywhere along the political spectrum.
Both Spain and Portugal are around 80% Roman Catholics and currently have socialist governments.
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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 4:55 pm Poland is now down to about 87% Roman Catholic, times are changing.
There are also countries that are overwhelmingly Roman Catholic that have socialist governments. For example the country with the most Roman Catholic citizens is Brazil. They just elected for the second time a Marxist president, Lula daSilva.
Roman Catholics fall everywhere along the political spectrum.
Both Spain and Portugal are around 80% Roman Catholics and currently have socialist governments.
Of course. 87%

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Vercingetorix wrote: January 28th, 2023, 6:37 pm Of course. 87%

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Yeah, that's 11 points different from the 98% that you pulled out of your ass.
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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 7:00 pm Yeah, that's 11 points different from the 98% that you pulled out of your ass.
However, my point still stands. The concept of liberals like those in the US in a country like Poland are laughable.
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Vercingetorix wrote: January 28th, 2023, 7:03 pm However, my point still stands. The concept of liberals like those in the US in a country like Poland are laughable.
Poland recently (2010-2016) had a social democrat as Prime Minister, a member of the Democratic Left Alliance Party.
Prime Minister of Poland: Marek Marian Belka is a Polish professor of economics and politician who has served as Prime Minister of Poland and Finance Minister of Poland in two governments. He is a former Director of the International Monetary Fund's (IMF) European Department and former Head of Narodowy Bank Polski (National Bank of Poland). He has served as a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) since July 2019.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democra ... t_Alliance

Roman Catholics can be rightists, centrists or leftists.
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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 7:16 pm Poland recently (2010-2016) had a social democrat as Prime Minister, a member of the Democratic Left Alliance Party.
Prime Minister of Poland: Marek Marian Belka is a Polish professor of economics and politician who has served as Prime Minister of Poland and Finance Minister of Poland in two governments. He is a former Director of the International Monetary Fund's (IMF) European Department and former Head of Narodowy Bank Polski (National Bank of Poland). He has served as a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) since July 2019.
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Roman Catholics can be rightists, centrists or leftists.
You are describing Polish parties. So nothing like the radical leftists in the US that you pretend not to support.
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Vercingetorix wrote: January 28th, 2023, 7:32 pm You are describing Polish parties. So nothing like the radical leftists in the US that you pretend not to support.
There is no Social Democratic Party in the US, there's just ol' Bernie Sanders and the berniecrats who I always vote against in California.
My previous congressman, Scott Peters (D-CA) has an estimated net worth of $39,738,062. I was then redistricted into Sara Jacobs' (D-CA) district. Sara has an estimated net worth of $21,428,125.
Both of my reps are among the twenty five wealthiest members of Congress, Sara is at #24 and Scott is at #15.
The 25 wealthiest members of Congress: https://www.businessinsider.com/wealthi ... 9738062-11
I vote for what Bernie Sanders calls "corporate Democrats!"
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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 10:51 pm There is no Social Democratic Party in the US, there's just ol' Bernie Sanders and the berniecrats who I always vote against in California.
My previous congressman, Scott Peters (D-CA) has an estimated net worth of $39,738,062. I was then redistricted into Sara Jacobs' (D-CA) district. Sara has an estimated net worth of $21,428,125.
Both of my reps are among the twenty five wealthiest members of Congress, Sara is at #24 and Scott is at #15.
The 25 wealthiest members of Congress: https://www.businessinsider.com/wealthi ... 9738062-11
I vote for what Bernie Sanders calls "corporate Democrats!"
I dont really care what you think you are voting for..in the end the Democrats as a whole are drones.
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Vercingetorix wrote: January 29th, 2023, 11:46 am I dont really care what you think you are voting for..in the end the Democrats as a whole are drones.
I LOVE drones, they're cool. My favorite drone is the AGM-114 Hellfire like the one that sent Islamic fundamentalist terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of al qaeda home to Allah.
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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 4:26 pm Poland to send 60 modernised PT-91 tanks to Ukraine, in addition to Leopards

Poland will send an additional 60 tanks to Ukraine on top of the 14 German-made Leopard 2 tanks it has already pledged, the Polish prime minister has said in an interview.

Warsaw, which has positioned itself as one of Kyiv's staunchest allies, had pressed hard for Germany to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine and to allow other countries to do so as well, a demand which Berlin agreed to on Wednesday.

"Poland sent 250 tanks as the first country half a year ago or even more than that," Mateusz Morawiecki told Canada's CTV News.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-28/ ... /101902426
And?

I'm thinking maybe you have a point you want to make??
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oflguy wrote: January 29th, 2023, 3:39 pm And?

I'm thinking maybe you have a point you want to make??
Nope. There's no other point. Just the fact that Poland is sending tanks to Ukraine along with Germany and the US.

It looks like the top Republicans in the House who are now chairing foreign affairs and armed services are pissed that Biden isn't sending heavier weapons to Ukraine.
McCaul, Rogers Urge Admin and Allies to Swiftly Send Ukraine Weapons Needed to Win

Washington, D.C.– House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) and House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-AL) released the following statement urging the administration and our allies to transfer to Ukraine urgently critical weapon systems they need to defeat Russia.

“The current handwringing and hesitation by the Biden administration and some of our European allies in providing critical weapon systems to Ukraine stinks of the weak policies of 2021, such as not sanctioning Nord Stream 2 or providing U.S.-origin Stingers before the full-scale invasion. While those policies failed to deter this conflict, the current indecision and self-deterrence will prolong it – costing Ukrainian lives. Now is the time for the Biden and Scholz governments to follow the lead of our U.K. and Eastern European allies – Leopard 2 tanks, ATACMS, and other long-range precision munitions should be approved without delay.”
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Nero wrote: January 29th, 2023, 3:36 pm I LOVE drones, they're cool. My favorite drone is the AGM-114 Hellfire like the one that sent Islamic fundamentalist terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of al qaeda home to Allah.
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The hellfire isn't a drone, moron. Its an air to ground guided missile.
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Safestuffer wrote: January 29th, 2023, 4:17 pm The hellfire isn't a drone, moron. Its an air to ground guided missile.
Yes you are correct. But without the drones that carry the Hellfire, Ayman Zawahiri would still be taking in oxygen.
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