Conservative government in Poland sending even more tanks to Ukraine

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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 4:26 pm Conservative government in Poland sending even more tanks to Ukraine
Odd claim, given that here on a regular basis dem-lefties claim that conservatives back putin...
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Nero wrote: January 29th, 2023, 3:36 pm I LOVE drones, they're cool. My favorite drone is the AGM-114 Hellfire like the one that sent Islamic fundamentalist terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of al qaeda home to Allah.
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Drone is something that doesnt have a mind of its own. Another peraon has to guide it and direct it for it to be able to do anything. It does what it is told and NOTHING more.
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Re: Conservative government in Poland sending even more tanks to Ukraine

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quad489 wrote: January 29th, 2023, 4:49 pm Odd claim, given that here on a regular basis dem-lefties claim that conservatives back putin...
Actually I think its extremely important that nations with conservative governments like Poland, Hungary, Japan, South Korea, etc. back Ukraine along with Republicans in the US Congress.
If only leftist governments supported Ukraine it would set up a left/right dichotomy that is politically unhealthy.
Russia is being supported by the communists in China and North Korea and the Islamic fundamentalists in Iran and Turkey.

I was delighted to see that the new Republican Chairs of the Foreign Relations and Armed Services Committees in the House are attacking Biden for not sending more heavy weapons to Ukraine.
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/press- ... ed-to-win/
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Safestuffer wrote: January 29th, 2023, 4:17 pm The hellfire isn't a drone, moron. Its an air to ground guided missile.
It's OK, Puddinhead doesn't know what they are either. He just knows he'll get a kickback for each one he takes from our arsenal and gives to Zelensky.
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Nero wrote: January 28th, 2023, 4:26 pm Poland to send 60 modernised PT-91 tanks to Ukraine, in addition to Leopards

Poland will send an additional 60 tanks to Ukraine on top of the 14 German-made Leopard 2 tanks it has already pledged, the Polish prime minister has said in an interview.

Warsaw, which has positioned itself as one of Kyiv's staunchest allies, had pressed hard for Germany to send Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine and to allow other countries to do so as well, a demand which Berlin agreed to on Wednesday.

"Poland sent 250 tanks as the first country half a year ago or even more than that," Mateusz Morawiecki told Canada's CTV News.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-28/ ... /101902426
Already sent 250 and they are losing ground every day. LOL

I do love the videos of them in flames though
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Nero wrote: January 29th, 2023, 3:52 pm Nope. There's no other point. Just the fact that Poland is sending tanks to Ukraine along with Germany and the US.

It looks like the top Republicans in the House who are now chairing foreign affairs and armed services are pissed that Biden isn't sending heavier weapons to Ukraine.
McCaul, Rogers Urge Admin and Allies to Swiftly Send Ukraine Weapons Needed to Win

Washington, D.C.– House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) and House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-AL) released the following statement urging the administration and our allies to transfer to Ukraine urgently critical weapon systems they need to defeat Russia.

“The current handwringing and hesitation by the Biden administration and some of our European allies in providing critical weapon systems to Ukraine stinks of the weak policies of 2021, such as not sanctioning Nord Stream 2 or providing U.S.-origin Stingers before the full-scale invasion. While those policies failed to deter this conflict, the current indecision and self-deterrence will prolong it – costing Ukrainian lives. Now is the time for the Biden and Scholz governments to follow the lead of our U.K. and Eastern European allies – Leopard 2 tanks, ATACMS, and other long-range precision munitions should be approved without delay.”
Puddinhead is wasting billions of our tax dollars, money we must borrow that adds to our national debt, all for a corrupt country that lost a war months ago.

I'm sure Puddin, Hunter and the rest of the Bidens are building nice bank accounts in at least one Swiss bank in the Bahamas though.
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oflguy wrote: January 30th, 2023, 5:55 am Puddinhead is wasting billions of our tax dollars, money we must borrow that adds to our national debt, all for a corrupt country that lost a war months ago.

I'm sure Puddin, Hunter and the rest of the Bidens are building nice bank accounts in at least one Swiss bank in the Bahamas though.
The Republican Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and Republican Chairman of the Armed Services Committee see things differently from you.
McCaul, Rogers Urge Admin and Allies to Swiftly Send Ukraine Weapons Needed to Win
Press Release 01.18.23
Media Contact 202-225-5021
Washington, D.C.– House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) and House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-AL) released the following statement urging the administration and our allies to transfer to Ukraine urgently critical weapon systems they need to defeat Russia.

“The current handwringing and hesitation by the Biden administration and some of our European allies in providing critical weapon systems to Ukraine stinks of the weak policies of 2021, such as not sanctioning Nord Stream 2 or providing U.S.-origin Stingers before the full-scale invasion. While those policies failed to deter this conflict, the current indecision and self-deterrence will prolong it – costing Ukrainian lives. Now is the time for the Biden and Scholz governments to follow the lead of our U.K. and Eastern European allies – Leopard 2 tanks, ATACMS, and other long-range precision munitions should be approved without delay.”
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/press- ... ed-to-win/
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Nero wrote: January 30th, 2023, 5:18 pm The Republican Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and Republican Chairman of the Armed Services Committee see things differently from you.
McCaul, Rogers Urge Admin and Allies to Swiftly Send Ukraine Weapons Needed to Win
Press Release 01.18.23
Media Contact 202-225-5021
Washington, D.C.– House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) and House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-AL) released the following statement urging the administration and our allies to transfer to Ukraine urgently critical weapon systems they need to defeat Russia.

“The current handwringing and hesitation by the Biden administration and some of our European allies in providing critical weapon systems to Ukraine stinks of the weak policies of 2021, such as not sanctioning Nord Stream 2 or providing U.S.-origin Stingers before the full-scale invasion. While those policies failed to deter this conflict, the current indecision and self-deterrence will prolong it – costing Ukrainian lives. Now is the time for the Biden and Scholz governments to follow the lead of our U.K. and Eastern European allies – Leopard 2 tanks, ATACMS, and other long-range precision munitions should be approved without delay.”
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/press- ... ed-to-win/
"Urge Admin and Allies to Swiftly Send Ukraine Weapons Needed to Win"

Win? Win what? The war was lost the first week.

Putin is playing a game of attrition with Zelensky and his minions, and Zelensky is extorting money for his own personal gain from any fool who will give it to him.
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oflguy wrote: January 30th, 2023, 6:12 pm "Urge Admin and Allies to Swiftly Send Ukraine Weapons Needed to Win"

Win? Win what? The war was lost the first week.

Putin is playing a game of attrition with Zelensky and his minions, and Zelensky is extorting money for his own personal gain from any fool who will give it to him.
It isn't Ukraine that is concerned about a possible coup overthrowing its president. It isn't Ukraine whose economy is being ground down by economic sanctions. Ukraine hasn't suffered 100,000 casualties and climbing. It isn't Ukraine that has retreated from previously captured areas.

Russia's allies: Georgia, Belarus, China, North Korea, Iran, India, Syria and Turkey.

Ukraine's allies: Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada,
Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, United Kingdom, United States, Moldova.
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Nero wrote: January 30th, 2023, 8:02 pm It isn't Ukraine that is concerned about a possible coup overthrowing its president. It isn't Ukraine whose economy is being ground down by economic sanctions. Ukraine hasn't suffered 100,000 casualties and climbing. It isn't Ukraine that has retreated from previously captured areas.

Russia's allies: Georgia, Belarus, China, North Korea, Iran, India, Syria and Turkey.

Ukraine's allies: Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada,
Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Netherlands, North Macedonia, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, United Kingdom, United States, Moldova.
I refer you to my latest post about the president of Croatia who said sending more arms to Ukraine is just prolonging the war, so you can scratch Croatia of your list.
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oflguy wrote: January 31st, 2023, 6:47 pm I refer you to my latest post about the president of Croatia who said sending more arms to Ukraine is just prolonging the war, so you can scratch Croatia of your list.
Has Croatia left NATO? Nope.
"Serbian, Croatian volunteers fight on Ukraine's front line"
Ivica Petrovic in Belgrade | Sinisa Bogdanic in Zagreb
13 hours ago
Is Russia's mercenary force, the Wagner Group, recruiting volunteers in Serbia to fight for Russia in Ukraine? One thing is certain: Serbian and Croatian volunteers can be found on both sides of the war.
https://www.dw.com/en/serbian-croatian- ... a-64563304
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Nero wrote: January 31st, 2023, 7:36 pm Has Croatia left NATO? Nope.
"Serbian, Croatian volunteers fight on Ukraine's front line"
Ivica Petrovic in Belgrade | Sinisa Bogdanic in Zagreb
13 hours ago
Is Russia's mercenary force, the Wagner Group, recruiting volunteers in Serbia to fight for Russia in Ukraine? One thing is certain: Serbian and Croatian volunteers can be found on both sides of the war.
https://www.dw.com/en/serbian-croatian- ... a-64563304
So?
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oflguy wrote: January 31st, 2023, 8:58 pmSo?
So, just like in every other nation, there are pro-Ukraine Croats and pro-Russian Croats. Some Croats are putting their very lives on the line for Ukraine's sovereignty.
From February, 2022: "Croatia to send weapons to Ukraine, provide health care to refugees"
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politi ... -refugees/
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Nero wrote: January 31st, 2023, 11:10 pm So, just like in every other nation, there are pro-Ukraine Croats and pro-Russian Croats. Some Croats are putting their very lives on the line for Ukraine's sovereignty.
From February, 2022: "Croatia to send weapons to Ukraine, provide health care to refugees"
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politi ... -refugees/
Maybe it's time to listen to voices of reason?
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